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explicit that an obama re-election would in their eyes doom their blood turnip businesses. but now that obama has been re-elected how have the john creators amongst us reacted. we turn to our deranged billionaire, john hodgman, john. >> oh, how dare you. >> jon: what. >> how dare you applaud me now after you shiftless moochers rejected everything that is good and right and wealthy in this world. >> jon: you're still up set that mitt romney lost. >> i don't know how, i don't understand why it happened, john. i mean we all agree that wealthy americans are the best americans. >> jon: well, not-- not everybody agrees with that. >> well, everybody one i know does and mitt romney was the wealthiest american, or at least the wealthiest who way willing to touch your hands and lift your babies. i mean romney was a rich man. and he wanted to be president watch. pore could he have done to earn your vote. i don't even know what is happening with this country any more, john. >> jon: did you just blow your nose with 100 dollar bill. >> i can't use a 50th, grant hair is too scratchy. >> jon: sorr
feels emboldened as you would do by being re-elected. can we expect to see a different obama? it struck me that the one thing he's not that good at actually is negotiating. if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a new system together where they would get in a room, chuck all the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of thing. we saw that last time around and if you read bob woodward's "the price of politics" it's one of the themes that comes through loud and clear. he's doing some things differently this time, though and one thing that i think is very interesting, he's taking his case to the american people and doing it day after day. all of us have talked on this show and other places about how bad the president has been in the past on selling what he
obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election and talk about a picture's worth 1,000 words. try a million for this one. only one word really you need which is awkward. just after this lunch took place, the president offered a tough fiscal cliff proposal to congress, one that aides to john boehner say -- wait for it -- he's already rejected. of course he has. joining me to talk about all things politics, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and ross douthat. how many seconds was it, do you think, gentlemen, let me start with you, frank, before john boehner rejected out of hand president obama's attempt to try and do a fiscal cliff deal? >> with $1.6 trillion in new taxes, i think probably half a second. >> when you see the apparent attempt at a bipartisan lunch going on today between obama and romney, it was all very sweet and everything, the reality is the picture was about as uncomfortable as the relationship is between the two sides, and again, frank, how do we get to a better place in washington? how do we get these guys to realize, let me throw thi
obama knocked mitt romney out in this election? did they do this on purpose? we'll never know. but maybe louie gohmert can help us out. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >>> we will know that is the case if we find some kind of mexican wrestling mask in the next pete souza photo from the last year in the former soviet republic of georgia, which to refresh your memory is here sort of wedged into a port of the world called eurasia, in his struggling young nation of georgia, a 75-year-old grandmother was out looking for scrap metal and she happened by some dark miracle she happened upon the cable that connects much of that region to the outside world. the cable that she found when she was looking for scrap metal happened to carry the internet. the whole internet service for that whole part of the world. and because this woman was poor and she thought the cable maybe contained some valuable copper that maybe she could sell, she cut that cable with a shovel. and with that one mighty thwack, that 75-year-old woman severed alm
on election night? surprise surprise. # 1, president obama wins. # 1. no. 2, he wins, not only the electoral votesnumber 1, president obama wins. number 1. no. 2, he wins, not only the electoral votes overwhelmingly and when you add florida it was 332 to 206. that ain't close, folks. not only that. he won the popular vote. helex night. no doubt about who won. he won 8 out of 9 of the battle ground states. that was sweet enough. okay? but here is the deal: a lot of people very long lost sight of. the president's margin keeps growing and growing and growing every day it gets bigger and bigger. because there are so many votes that weren't counted on november 6th and as of this morning, there is still like a million and a half uncounted votes out there, which is a amazing. think about it. the election right in the almost a month old. >> yeah. >> still a million and a half votes. many of them like a million votes in new york state. % why? because of hurricane sandy and the presinks they had to use like paper ballots and they haven't been able to
. to rat the obama administration. and south carolina presidential election. shooting down rockets and missiles is idea behind israel so-called iron dome. said to be effective in conflict with hamas. what. we look at the questions from the pentagon. >> 1,500 rockets were fired at israel from the gaza strip in eight day of fighting. the iron dome missile system said to intercepted most of them. modern warfare game changer in the middle east. >> iron dome, performed, fair to say remarkably well. in the recent escalation. >> only 55 out of the 1,500 ended up falling. >> the u.s. taxpayers invested $275 million to help israel build and seal the iron dome which can stop incoming rockets within a 2.5-mile to 44-mile range. israel outgoing defense minister gave panetta a model as a token of gratitude. >> small iron dome. >> but the u.s. army want mrs. than a model. it wants its own antimissile system. and congress would like a favorable discount given what the u.s. has already invested in the system. >> but instead of buying from israelis who already have technology, the army may decide t
. they want the american government to function. that's the reason why barack obama was elected and mitt romney was not elected. the american people liked most of the president's policies, and they want the government to function. if i were a house member, a republican, and i'm thinking of 2014, i would find a way to come up with real proposals and make meaningful change in the nation's tax code. >> jennifer: they are in a box. if they put a specific proposal on the table for either medicare cuts or specific loopholes they want to close whatever, it means that they're bound to those things. that's why nobody wants to put anything in writing. today speaker boehner appointed candace mill for chair the house administration committee. now all week, we've heard all the theirs were men. do you think this is intended and will quiet down the critics that the republicans weren't living? >> no. i mean, it's a nice gesture. it's wonderful to see another woman in a leadership position in congress, but the republican--enough cannot be said about the fact that they need more women. they need more peop
seems to have the leverage right now, craig, and whether it was president obama's re-election, whether it's some of the republicans like the sound you actually played from tom cole who seems to be going to the white house position, the bush tax cuts should be extended for the middle class, but for the middle class only. so the white house by creating all these big demands including more tax revenue, but also saying, hey, congress, we want to take away your power on the debt ceiling limit to have all these asks that tim geithner apparently made was basically to make republicans cave on the one thing the white house really wants, and that is to decouple the bush tax cuts for the middle class and the wealthy. >> do you think the white house has done a good job explaining that every american will get a tax cut on their first $250,000 of income? >> that's a great question and president obama made that in his remarks today. he's actually been making it in the past. and it is actually something that we as journalists haven't done a very good job pointing out. that even if you are a billionair
in 2012, in a general election with barack obama, an african-american, a democrat, and a relatively popular president would create a different electorate than the one you saw say in 2010 or in a primary situation? >> well, i think -- as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here is who we think is going to show up and vote, therefore that's who we ask the question of. republicans and not just the romney campaign, but republican pollsters all across the country guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that there was there for the president, particularly among young voters. we oversampled male white voters. and, you know, you add all that together and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. plus, the assumption always is that the incumbent is not going to pick up any votes on election day. i think this time -- >> i think that's right. bob, you're a pro-let's go through the first one. perception is about the enthusiasm level. we were watching the last election. you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviousl
is that not only was the democratic president, barack obama, re-elected, but in the senate, democrats picked up two seats, and in the house, the democrats picked up eight seats. so it was just a bad election for the republicans. and as the republicans defeated presidential candidate was invited to the white house today for what has come to be known as the quadrennial american gracious loser white house photo op. the romney campaign's chief strategist is being whatever the political equivalent is of being set upon by wolves. for opining in the "washington post" this week that even though he ran a campaign that lost by 126 electoral votes, even though his candidate lost his home state, even though his candidate's running mate lost his home state. even though the party lost seats in the house and senate at the same time they were losing the white house, mr. romney's chief strategist says he thought the campaign he ran went just fine. he says they, quote, carried the day. which i'm sure they did, other than the whole losing everything part. you would think there would be a lot of mainstream appropriate
is not unprecedented. in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico he and ronald reagan never sat down for this kind of conversation. and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promis
it was and is quite tasty. >> in the spotlight tonight, president obama bestows one final election gift. and this time, mitt romney is the recipient. at half past noon today, the winner and loser of this year's presidential election caught the holiday spirit, let by gones be by gones and ate white turkey chili and southwestern grilled chicken salad during a, quote, friendly lunch together. according to the official white house report, governor romney congratulated the president for the success of his campaign and wished him well over the coming four years. they pledged to stay in touch, particularly if opportunities to work together on shared interests arise in the future. before his lunch date, mitt romney met with the most recent losing vice presidential candidate who will never be president. >> how was your meeting with mr. ryan today? was it nice to see him? >> great friend. good to be with him. >> good to be with him? >> always great to see paul ryan. >> today's hatchet burying ceremony between the president and mitt romney is not unprecedented. in 2008, then president elect obama met with john m
they all seem to have reached a crescendo once president obama was elected. so i don't see how people could think there's not a racial component. and it's unfortunate, though, when you point that out, they want to push back and say you're using the race card, but the reality is that the attacks on this president are unprecedented. the reality is, also, that he's needed security and had more secret service threats against him based on race than anybody else in the history of the presidency. and those are real issues and louie gohmert is playing into it and that's also what makes this so irresponsible. >> you think their hatred for the president plays out in the legislative processes as well? i know it does. i mean, i believe it does. they, 368 filibusters. i mean, they don't want anything to do through from his agenda. they come up with the wildest conspiracy theories that we've ever heard. now, of course, the bombing of libya. i mean, it's pretty outrageous. how -- do you think in some certain ways that this is a motivating factor for the progressive base? >> i do. i think it definitely mot
on, jason jones has more. >> the u.s. elections are over. >> barack obama will be reelected -- >> but what happens next for the professionals who were the true backbone of our democracy? american political consultants. not all of them work as cable news pundits. some follow a different path. >> people like me who work principally on campaigns look elsewhere, outside the country, you know, campaigns in other countries all around the world. >> tonight we hear the story of these american strategists who cross the globe helping less fortunate democracies. they are consultants without borders. ♪ a hero could save us -- >> listen, every place is not like, you know, our country in terms of the stage of development of democracy. u.s. political consultants just have a lot more experience. >> and that experience can make all the difference for nations in need. >> well, in ireland, for example, the incumbent government had a web site and the web site had a link to "playboy" and it just so happens that the minister who was in charge of that department's name was pat rabbit. so we shar
. there's a secret recording of that lunch, kind of. >> president obama makes good on an election night promise meeting with mitt romney. that this is their first face-to-face meeting sings their bruising campaign. >> the elbow of the day is on a shiny bald republican head. i think you'll like it. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> cenk: president obama met with mitt romney today for lunch. our political correspondent michael shure is here to tell us all about it. >> on the one hand, a warming comforting thing about american politics is the loser comes and meets with the president or whoever it was that beat them. they have a meeting at the white house. mitt romney arrived through a back door, pictured going inside. that's through the basement of the white house. i couldn't make this stuff up. then of course this is the official picture, the white house released, there's an official picture. this is of course governor romney and president obama standing in the oval office, comforting that romney would be leaving the oval office and romney would remain. t.y.t. being investigative and on the spot, taki
freedom. in 2008, president elect obama invited john mccain to his chicago offices and mccain got a meeting. and as for mitt romney, he got a meal. the president treated mr. romney to a lunch of southwestern grilled chicken and, wait for it, white turkey chili. white turkey chili. who knew the white house had such a good sense of humor. gotta go everything, thanks, see you tomorrow. >> eliot: good evening. i'm eliot spitzer. this is "viewpoint." the white house confronted republican leaders today with a new vision of how the country should navigate what we at "viewpoint" prefer to call the fiscal slope or austerity bomb. the white house proposal wasn't well received. treasury secretary timothy geithner met with house speaker john boehner and laid out a detailed list from president obama that includes $1.6 trillion in tax increase over ten years. more stimulus spending to boost the economy including home mortgage refinancing and the permanent end to congressional control over the debt ceiling. in return, pr
better leadership. president obama just won re-election, so he can claim he has a mandate. i don't think it's a mandate to raise taxes, increase the size of government and put us further in debt. that's his argument. that's the process of self government. the american people will have to take a grip, not just washington, but look at how bad things are in illinois and california and new york. several of our states are very, very bads shape. >> greta: california will be interesting to watch, because they have a democratic governor, democratic legislatures now, and they've got big problems. so california is -- the democrats in california have a chance to either, you know, make things look really good or let things look very bad. at least i'm keeping my eye on that state. >> that's a key indicator of the future. i can tell you, a place like texas, they're thrilled the number of californians leaving and moving to texas. that's happening all across the west. california is exporting some of its hardest-working, best entrepreneurs, because they've given up. i was with a man just yesterday in los
these absurd things and get re-elected because they start with a thesis of obama is a horrible person, he's a foreigner, a terrorist himself. you would think by now if there was some manchurian candidate thing to obama, it would have already come out. >> i might have supposed that. >> we're in a second term here. this is a guy who is thinking for the history books, for the legacy. when you talk about obama care, something big that is comprehensive that changes america. i think he's going to be looking for something comprehensive in terms of latinos, something in terms of foreign policy that will leave a mark on the world. and not just sort of piecemeal things and not trying to turn libya into a state run by al qaeda. it's such a dumb point that this person is making. ja let's go to another dumb individual. he's representative steve king of iowa, and here is how he thinks republicans might reach out to latino voters. take a listen to this, lily. >> whatever we might say we were going to do, reduce the enforcement of the rule of law, waive the ruling of law, democrats will find a way to han
be good. >> we're going towards the cliff. >> and so what happened is the election happened. obama wins. clearly he ran on raising tax or raising revenue from the top 2%. center piece. republicans are not stupid. they sort of understand that. so they went through a process the day after boehner said revenues but not rates, and some began to drift over, okay, rates, so you have had movement, until friday or yesterday, thursday, when tim geithner goes up there and delivers an ultimatum which is a chest thumping stick in the eye to the republicans. and all the migration suddenly stops and suddenly they get outraged apt are. and so they are back, they are going back to where grover norquist wants them to be because they are outraged because they feel they have been insulted is, that this is not a negotiation t a war. i think what had yesterday from the administration was a bit of negotiation incompetence because they pushed us, the psychological process the republicans were going through, which they have to go through has to be has been pushed way back. >> where do you think we are. >> i'm
on the wealthy. >>> with the election behind them, president obama and mitt romney had lunch together tonight at the white house. cameras got a glimpse at mitt romney. the lunch was private. it lasted over an hour and the white house said the president did not have an agenda here. the president prompted to meet with mitt romney to discuss how they could work together. and the menu, the white house said white turkey chilly and southwestern grilled chicken salad. >>> fewer americans filed unemployment claims last week. 393,000 people filed for jobless claims. it was the second straight decline. the u.s. labor market has been showing signs of improvement after more hiring and fewer job cuts. >>> on wall street today, the dow is up 36 to 13,021. the nasdaq is up 20 at 3,012. the s&p is up 6 at 1,415. >>> we have just learned that one of last night's powerball winners is expected to come forward tomorrow. the jackpot was $588 million. that is the highest ever for powerball. officials say one ticket was sold in arizona, another in missouri. the winners could each take $192 million before taxes. >>>
the tea party movement is alive and well. president obama may have won this election but two years ago leaders of the tea party movement elected ron paul's son rand as kentucky senator over an establishment republican. one leader of that movement who runs a high-end audio equipment business says they could do the same thing in 2014, and this time take out mitch mcconnell if he agrees to raise taxes. >> we shall not raise taxes in this country. we do not have a revenue problem. i would like senator mcconnell to recognize that the washington leaders are like a bunch of crack addicts. they need evermore money for evermore growing government and it is at the expense of the ordinary citizen that they pursue these policies. >> reporter: but the brighter those lines are drawn, the harder it will be to get a deal. owen williams worked more than 20 years on wall street. now he runs a small college here that sits on the board of the henry clay center for statesmanship. the way to a solution, he says, is for both sides to have a voice. >> both have taken the attitude that it's my way or the highw
:00 in the morning until i go to bed at midnight. i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of that. romney, himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened and what went wrong and when. i think they'll be doing that for a while. you know, i don't think it's something that's fading for romney. i mean, i think he still thinks about this an awful lot. >> doug brinkley, honor to have you on as always. doug brinkley, author of the great book on cronkite. it's really a good history of, well, recent american history going all the way back to world war ii. it's a great book. anyway, we'll be right back. doug brinkley, thank you. matt viser of the great "boston globe." you're watching "hardball
found yourself on the wrong end of a wave election. people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were understandably frightened and now as the health care law is being carried out they recognize that this is a very consumer friendly law. and so that has changed. the issues in this past election the proper role of government, and i was running against the tea partier who wanted to shut down so much of government functions and people recognize that they really do want to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do want medicare, social security. they wan
. the menu was made public. turkey chilly and southwestern grilled chicken salad. in his election, you might recall president obama promised to meet with romney. they posed as you can see here for an official photograph in the oval office. but since it was not a media event, no news cameras were inside. they said it foegsed on manager's leadership in the world. >>> long battle over an oyster farm appears to be over. the farm supplies 40% of california's oysters was trying to extend its lease on national park land. today farm got a decision. nbc bay area has the new details. >> reporter: gray skies loom over pth reyes this morning with the appropriate back drop. >> today is a day that's hard to believe. >> reporter: at 9:30 a.m., he got a call from u.s. interior secretary ken salazar letting hill know his century-old oyster farm on national park land would have to go. >> the secretary said that he considered the facts, that it is a really difficult decision to hear. >> but tend most difficult part was telling his 30 workers including jorge that they would soon be without jobs. >> this is my j
of their options in illinois is to go straight to d.c. and say we need a bailout, we did vote for president obama in the last election. give us a bailout. they you think that will happen? >> and all too real possibility. the governor refuses to rule out asking or accepting future federal bailout and a freeze keep sitting on our hands doing nothing the problem will get worse and that will be a federal bailout. and ask taxpayers of other states, folks who have their act together to fix our politicians's mess. >> i have been saying for a long time i think a bailout request will come. maybe they are denying it but i think it is going to come. in california same situation, ill. same situation. both of those that -- voted for president obama, a bailout request is coming but absent that, what plan could they put in place in illinois to deal with this? got any ideas? >> it is simple, we have to follow the lead of the private sector and transition to the fine contribution plan. pensions are broke. trying to fix our system would be like bailing out the titanic with a dixie cup. you have to do right by stat
, the budget passed by the house, obama insulted ryan, calling him undemocratic. he gets elected by 51% of the vote. mark my words, sean hannity, if the republicans cave this time, they'll get the same results that reagan and bush 41 got, which spends tax and no spending cuts. >> sean: we have a spending problem. why do it now? must raise the tax rates, my way or the highway, give me my way first. what kind of negotiation is that? and what's his plan? >> i don't think it is a my way or the highway. bill, sorry, i know that you love to look at my green eyes in person, i'm in l.a. today, sorry about that, but if we look back to 30 years, when we had a different congress, a different president, a different demographic in the american voter, that's crazy. the president has agreed to cuts, which, by the way, is going to hurt me personally, because my husband is a doctor, but we're talking $400 billion in medicare cuts in the future. >> sean: in the future? >> yes. >> sean: years from now. >> this plan sticks to the framework of -- >> sean: tax increases now. republicans give in. then the cu
that the elections are over, it is time for president obama and the white house to get alan home. no matter how they have to do it, no matter who they have to do it with, it could take several -- not to give up. they have to find the right people to get together and negotiate. what they negotiate, it's fine with me. they just need to bring alan home and we're really advocating strongly president obama get himself involved in this to get him home. >> judy gross, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> and who's going to blink first in the fiscal cliff negotiations? our friday political package up next. first, the first dog is getting into the holiday spirit. the white house released video of bo making an inspection of this year's holiday decoration while the toy rep ply caf -- replica of boy stopped him in his tracks. ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make chan
know firsthand that every election carries a lot of messages, but president obama himself has concluded that the one just past was sort of an impetus to get the middle class back together financially and otherwise. and as governor of michigan, the best thing that we could do for this nation right now as you know former governor of michigan is to get balance back in the work force. and i think there were very strong messages that the nation, as evidenced by votes in your old home state of michigan, ohio pennsylvania, really throughout the industrial midwest, was saying to the congress specifically, we need a manufacturing policy of our own. we need to have as many as two and a half times more women and men in the manufacturing sector, governor than we have today. and they have to be paid fairly, they have to have fair trade policies that sustain their employment. we just have to get this economy as you said repeatedly, back in balance and that's probably the best place to start. >> jennifer: totally agree. totally agree
term, a re-election for president obama. pongyang has been banned from conducting these long-range missile tests by the u.n. and by the united states and that is another reason they want to test it. there are reasons against it. there are some logistical reasons. launching in december is difficult. again i'm told this could be a go. back to you. martha: going to get the attention of a lot of people with that for sure. that may be part of the motivation. greg, thank you very much. bill: 10 minutes past the hour and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said to have laughed out loud at the plan the white house brought to the hill yesterday. so today the president takes his plan to avert the fiscal cliff straight to the voters. with we'll talk about that. melissa: what's happened right now is the republicans are surrounded by the news media and democrats who are creating an artificial standard, basically saying if you don't sell out on taxes you're bad people. bill: so what's up with that we wonder? fair and balanced debate. great panel on that coming up. martha: the fbi is lau
: there is a lot of relevancy to that because who won the presidential election? president obama. he's holding the cards right now and if, in fact they do go over the cliff will he actually be true to what he said before, which is let's do this short-term deal now, even though it's really not a deal, it's a one-sided deal and then after get over the fiscal, then we'll sit down and actually talk some serious business. but has that really been done in the last three or four years? do you really believe that they will talk serious business, which would include both sides of the fence tax increase potentially, and spending cuts? do you believe that they'll actually do that? >> steve: you know what? charles krauthammer in his column today writes about once upon a time, ronald reagan took that deal where the democrats said okay, let's get a deal now and then we'll talk about cuts later. he never got the cuts and he always was remorseful of the fact that he didn't get the cuts when he made the deal. >> gretchen: the other stories
report from ramallah is straight ahead. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, warned that little will change in the palestinian territories after this vote. pal
, senator elect ted cruz explaining it this way. up want to know why obama won 75% of the hispanic vote, tone on immigration contributed but i think far more important was the 47%. oh, yeah, the big romney call for self-deportation had nothing to do with it. nor did the gop's slew of other extremist position on immigration. and then there's mr. on-air meltdown himself, karl rove, the former gop king-maker. why not just come right out and call him the man who blew through $300 million? he said in his speech, he's no longer suicidal that president won. well, that's a relief. now mr. rove is just, quote, despondent. and here's his new theory on why they lost. what splinters the republican party is intolerant and judgmental language and an unwillingness to acknowledge differences. so the big mystery the republicans have figured out their party just sounds to me is about their language. it's about their tone. nothing about their far right policies. hey, mr. rove, we fell for this before. remember the compassionate conservative? joining me now is molly ball with the atlantic magazine and her
obama may have won this election but would years ago, leaders of the tea party movement elected ron paul's son, rand, as kentucky senator over an establishment republican. one leader of that movement who runs a high-end audio equipment business says they could do the same thing in 2014 and this time take out mitch mcconnell if he agrees to raise taxes. >> we should not raise taxes in this country. we do not have a receive knew problem. i would like senator mcconnell to recognize that the washington leaders are like a bunch of crack addicts. they immediate ever more money forever more growing government and it is at the expense of the ordinary citizens that they pursue these policies. >> but the brighter those lines are drawn, the harder it will be to get a deal. william worked more than 20 years on wall street. now he runs a small college here and sits on the board of the henry clay center for statesmanship. the way to a solution, he says, is for both sides to have a voice. >> both have taken the -- attitude that it is my way or the highway. and americans recognize that that's just not t
that republicans didn't lose the argument against president obama over government in the last election. he says they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispan
of his word. >> stephanie: he said after the post election comment especially because president obama won because he gave gifts to his constituency, he felt that romney was a bad loser. he said there is no dignity in saying that people won by buys votes. i can't stand behind that also probably he wanted to get rid of the tattoo. >> there is a celebrity endorsement. >> stephanie: someone offered to remove it for free. >> it was dr. will kirby of big brother. he's trying to get publicity. the world's number one expert of laser tattoo removal. >> that's the number one growth of industry. i want a fleet of tattoo remover. and what's that, next to medical pot, that's the next industry. rocky mountain mike said that guy is updating his face status. >> stephanie: thank you. 45 minutes after the hour. back for the remaining moments of friday with fugalsang on "the stephanie miller show"." >> announcer: it's her political party. she'll cry if she wants to. it's "the stephanie miller show." hershey's simple pleasures chocolate. 30% less fat, 100% delicious. >>i jump out of my skin at people when i
to the public for a vote in 30 days. we are hearing new acai sayings that president obama may not want to reach a deal on the nation's fiscal crisis. some claim the president is intentionally coming to the table with a plan the republicans will reject to damage gop come the next election. democrats are asking the republicans, where are your proposals? here is john boehner and nancy pelosi. >> the republican lead i areship in the house to bring the legislation to the floor next week. megyn: doug schoen cohosts campaign insiders and is a fox news contributor. charles payne is a fox news contributor and bill mcgurn is a former speech writer for president george w. bush. let me start with you on this, bill. with all due respect to charles you both worked in the white house for the president. what is the president doing? arthur aidala says i'm not allowed to make this gesture. why is he doing that? >> because he may win. my view is there is no fiscal cliff or debt cliff. there is a political cliff and he wants to push the republicans off. the debate is how much do republicans will surrender and then
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. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, warned that little will change in the palestinian territories after this vote. palestinians in gaza and the west bank flooded into the streets late into the night. they are shooting fireworks, waving flags, honking car horns in celebration. let's go live to cnn's fred pleitgen in ramallah with the latest. very big day for the palestinians. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: hi, wolf. well, the celebrations certainly have quieted down somewhat but it was really just in the past ten minutes that they did quiet down. befo
? we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are saying please, please, tax us fairly. and here's the point. the president is saying to the millionaires and billionaires, we're just taking you back to the tax rates that you had when bill clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the
of a permanent increase in the national debt limit. president obama remarkably consistent in his intent to raise taxes on the top 2% of taxpayers. half of those are small-business men and women. the entire election season, he did say a number of times since being reelected, and he's not backing off. e president and his baath insist on higher taxes for the so-called wealthy. remarkably, republicans seem surprised by secrery geithner. chief correspondent ed henry with our repor reporter: optimism faded as timothy geithner let the republicans to decle the talks are going nowhere. >> i'm disappointed. i'm disappnted in where we are and what has happened over the last couple of weeks. i'm hehere trying to seriously resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get it as well. reporter: a key driver is that the president announced that spending cuts can wait. >> it would give us more time the next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit. jay carney broke new ground by declaring that the president does on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the f
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